Showing posts with label podcasts. Show all posts
Showing posts with label podcasts. Show all posts

Thursday, 29 May 2025

The Listener by Sheena Wilkinson


I have always been a lover of audio content. When I was ten, I used my first cassette recorder to make my own radio programmes, Cherry’s Chat (I can still remember the jingle, written and performed by me of course, and aren’t you lucky there isn’t an audio facility on this blog?) and Arthur’s Book Reviews (I was going through an Arthur Ransome phase) as well as numerous phone-ins where I did all the voices -- though I have absolutely no memory of what the conversations were about, my interests at the time being mostly reading and animals. (So maybe things haven't changed much.)  

I love music too – I remember travelling by bus to Prague in 1992 with my Sony Walkman and five cassettes – but I prefer to be distracted and entertained by the spoken word, so when podcasts and BBC Sounds became a thing I was an enthusiastic adopter. I’ve always liked to read while cleaning my teeth/doing the hoovering/ cooking the dinner etc but it’s amazing how much more productive I am with a podcast or audio book on instead and both hands free.

I walk for miles every day and having something to listen makes me walk further and more joyfully – and yes, I know I should be appreciating nature and thinking beautiful thoughts but I can do all three; as a freelance writer I’m an inveterate multi-tasker.

So what do I listen to? Well, it depends on my mood and what else I'm doing, but at any one time I will tend to have on the go –

An audio book in the car – a physical CD from the local library. I often to listen things which are a little more romantic/saga-ish than the books I read with my eyes, simply because the library’s stock of physical audio books is probably geared towards an older demographic (though in fairness I am 56).

An audio book on my phone, again from the local library service, borrowed through the Libby or Borrowbox apps. If you don’t know these apps, they are wonderful: all you need is a library card and you have access to thousands of books. I have heard people say that audiobooks don’t count as reading: I think this is nonsense. Of course it’s a different reading experience than reading the words with your eyes, but I don’t see how it’s any less valid. 

From BBC Sounds: episodes of The Archers, plus The Archers podcast; Brain of Britain or Round Britain Quiz according to the season, and lots of drama content. I have exhausted the archive of Desert Island Discs, but I thoroughly recommend it, especially for listening to favourite (long-dead) writers. 



From my podcast app: whatever takes my fancy, and I go through phases, but some podcasts I have been loyal to, and which might be of interest to ABBA followers are: 


Writer's Routine, with Dan Simpson, is the ultimate podcast for writers who are interested in other writers' routines. Dan interviews a wide variety of writers, some very well known, others less so, and the conversation is always insightful. I often find myself talking back (which must look and sound odd, but luckily I am usually walking in lonely places), saying 'Yes! I do that!' or, 'Gosh, that's a funny way to do it,' or, 'Hmm, I might try that.' Definitely a writer's podcast. 


I am also very fond of the eclectic Tea or Books, which has introduced me to many books I might not otherwise have known. 

About to celebrate its tenth anniversary, this jolly, friendly podcast involves friends and book bloggers Simon (Stuck in a Book) and Rachel (Book Snob) talking about -- yes, books. There's a preponderance for the mid-century, which is why it appeals so much to me, but they do cover a wide range of reading. A typical episode will include a dilemma/ question -- for example, Can literary fiction be a comfort read?; Resolved or unresolved endings?; Do we care about authors' personal lives? followed by a comparison of two books. I have been listening for so long that it feels like eavesdropping on two pals chatting about books I'm likely to enjoy. 



Finally, because I haven't mentioned the Chalet School for, oh, it must be a couple of months, the exuberant Tophole! Hosted by Chalet Fan Deborah Lofts, and often featuring a chat with her sister Wendy, this too is a friendly, knowledgable chat about the Chalet School and related matters. 

These are only a few of my regular podast listens -- I am also very fond of Sheduunit, How to Fail, Off Air, and pretty much anything which features an interview with writers I like. I don't seem to like switching off from words, but listening to podcasts or audio books, or radio shows, at least stops me talking and gets me listening. 


I'm sure many readers have their own recommendations! 


 

Tuesday, 11 February 2020

Fail Better, Ladies by Kelly McCaughrain


I’ve been listening to Elizabeth Day’s excellent podcast series How to Fail this week. In each episode she interviews a celeb about their biggest failures, the aim being to debunk the myth that successful people never fail, to tear down those carefully curated Instagram profiles and show that failure is what teaches us to eventually succeed. 


It’s a brilliant idea and a great podcast, I recommend it. I’ve mainly been listening to the writers she’s interviewed and my principal observation so far has been the difference between the way the male and female interviewees approach the concept of ‘failure.’*

(*this is obviously a massive generalisation based on a small number of podcasts but still…)

Day says it’s harder to get men to come on the program because when asked to name ‘failures’ in their lives they genuinely can’t think of any. Whereas women are like,


In the ones I’ve heard, women list among their failures things like miscarriage, infertility, being made redundant, relationship breakdown, alcoholism, their entire twenties, being overweight and mental illness. These are things over which we have little or no control yet women list them as personal failures, rather than things that happen to you in the same way as flu or cancer happen to you.

Sebastian Faulks, conversely, said he “found it difficult to relate to the concept of failure.” His ‘failures’ were a souffle that didn’t rise and being beaten at tennis and cricket.


I do want to point out that Faulks seemed like a genuinely nice and interesting guy, and I’m not getting at the male interviewees here. I’m actually saying I wish the women had the same attitudes to failure that they did, and I just want to point out the massive differences as I perceived them, and question where this comes from.

Basically, I noticed a huge trend for women to label anything that went wrong in their lives a ‘failure’ that they felt as a personal flaw or something to be ashamed of, while men tended to blame external circumstances for anything that went wrong and deny that failure was even a real thing, since they might succeed on the next attempt anyway. 


While Elizabeth Day sympathised and reassured the women and reminded them that failure is character building etc, there was sense with the men that she was actively chucking their failures at them in a desperate attempt to get them to admit to one of them.

While Jesse Burton described her descent into depression at the terror lest her second book ‘fail’ (ie not be the MASSIVE bestseller her first was), when Day brought up Faulks's Bad Sex Award for Charlotte Grey, he said he’d won because Birdsong had been so successful people felt he needed taken down a peg. When he failed to win a big Italian Literature Prize, the winner was the brother-in-law of the chairman of the judges. He also failed his driving test twice but was failed for being ‘young and cocky’ because there was no other box to tick, and added that he was still only 17 when he passed so was that really a failure?

James Frey caused massive controversy with his first book when it was discovered that he’d fabricated parts that were supposed to be true. He was called out on the Oprah Show. When Day called this a ‘humiliation’ he objected to the word and said it was great advertising and that he considers the whole thing a ‘gargantuan success’. 


When he talked about a book of his that hadn’t been popular with readers, Faulks said it was either ‘misunderstood’ by people who weren’t sophisticated enough to get its unusual structure or criticised by readers who wanted to show how clever they were by saying this unusual book wasn’t very original at all. He felt that people who don’t like his books and patronisingly call them a “smashing read” do so because they “feel threatened” and like to defend themselves by “mumsifiying” the book. Interesting that calling a book entertaining (rather than difficult and literary presumably) is ‘mumsy’ but anyway…



When Marian Keyes failed to get onto a journalism course at uni she felt she’d been “hubristic” to even attempt it and subsequently gave up all career ambition and started drinking. She actually did get a law degree but this huge success didn’t feel like an achievement because “anything I could achieve automatically felt worthless.” Malcolm Gladwell said when he failed to get a job in advertising he wasn’t too bothered and pasted the rejection letters on the wall as a joke.

While Olivia Laing said she never remembers or notices anything from reviews except the things that upset her, Faulks said he found them ‘bracing’ as long as they weren’t personal. (It hadn’t occurred to me that you could NOT take a review personally but there you go.)

Laing said she had trouble narrowing down her failures and felt that women are socialised to be self-deprecating and not claim their successes. She listed as a failure being made redundant from the Observer, but called getting that job in the first place "a magical stroke of luck" and getting her book published a "complete and utter miracle".

Frey likes to break the rules and can’t see why he should live or write the way anyone else thinks he should, while Keyes felt shame for her body’s inability to do what it was ‘supposed to’ and bear children.

Laing felt that every book is a failure until it’s finished and Burton and Keyes both felt imposter syndrome. Frey said his ‘overnight success’ was really 12 years of being the only person who believed he could do it and that he has almost no self-doubt when writing. It’s not “Can I do it?” it’s just “How long will it take?” He’s also about to publish the first draft of a book that he’s refused to let anyone edit; he likes the flaws and bits that don’t work because they’re part of life. (Hmm. Wonder if I could get my editor to buy that.)


I couldn’t help wondering how I’d have felt if a woman on the program (I didn’t find any) spoke about failure like the men. Would I find her arrogant, while the men are admirable? I think I did find the women ‘normal’ and the men ‘arrogant’ but I wonder do men notice this difference and, if they consider themselves ‘normal’, what they think of the women?

I think class plays a big part in this too. And really the podcast isn’t about faults or flaws, it’s more about revealing the truth behind our Insta-Lives. The women do talk about how failures have led to their subsequent successes. But still, I found the gender differences staggering.

And, I just wanted to draw attention to this because as writers we are on the rollercoaster of rollercoasters when it comes to success and failure and it’s all very public. Most of my writer friends are women and I think there is a tendency for us (even though we know in theory that there are a hundred reasons a MS might get rejected) to automatically assume that every ‘failure’ is a personal flaw. Rejection leads to dejection leads to depression leads to even lower confidence leads to giving up.

I think our problems come from the idea that our work is so linked to who we are. Of course rejection is hard in those circumstances. Are men just better at separating their work from their identities? Or are they just better at assuming they are awesome people? 

What if we were all able to think, ‘OK, so that book was my heart and soul and this person didn’t like it. They must be an idiot/too busy to have read it properly/under pressure to find a different kind of book/already representing a similar book/going to LOVE my second book/not a fan of steampunk comedy noir/jealous of my enormous talent/one in 7 billion people on the planet who just doesn’t get me and probably isn’t destined to be my BFF.’ Instead of leaping straight to ‘I must be a really crap human.’


I wrote a post a while back about the necessity of defining success for yourself, so that you’d notice when you’d achieved it. But I think we also need to have a look at how we define failure. So we notice when we’re beating ourselves needlessly and illogically around the head with it.

I wish I could finish this with the inspiring words of a female writer but actually I’m just going to quote the men. Faulks began his interview by questioning what failure means and ended by saying, "It’s how you look at it." Frey said failure is just "part of the process" and that if you can remove your ego from a process then there really isn’t a difference between success and failure; it just is what it is. Malcolm Gladwell famously believes that failure is just 10,000 hours from success.

How do you define it?

Have a listen to the podcast anyway, it’s very entertaining (especially Alain de Botton's, which is fascinating). It’s also fun (and illuminating) to imagine what you’d chose as your 'failures' if you were a guest on it…   





Kelly McCaughrain is the author of the Children's Books Ireland Book of the Year,

She is the Children's Writing Fellow for Northern Ireland #CWFNI

She also blogs at The Blank Page

@KMcCaughrain 




Monday, 5 August 2019

Five (more) great podcasts for writers - Alex English


Last year, Dan Metcalf gave us his top six podcasts for writery types, so I thought I would brazenly steal his format and give an update with my current favourite listens for children's authors. Here goes:


1. Out on the Wire

Cartoonist Jessica Abel's podcast is about making stories for radio, but is really all about storytelling, and the takeaways are equally useful for people writing non-fiction, graphic novels, or really any form of narrative. The show ran a while ago, but it's still possible to listen to all the episodes and it works best if you listen to them chronologically. I like the clarity of Jessica's delivery (there's no rambling here). The show also has a great format – a factual episode followed by a workshop episode, where listeners send in their work to be critiqued. There are plenty of accompanying bonus goodies like worksheets to be downloaded from Jessica's site too. I liked this podcast so much I bought the graphic novel version.


2. Serial

You may well know about Serial already, but if you don't LISTEN NOW! This is investigative journalism at its finest, utterly gripping and skilfully told. I am currently listening to season three, but I recommend starting where it all began with season one – a true crime story set in Baltimore, where a teenage student goes missing and her boyfriend is arrested.


3. The Pen Addict

Perhaps a bit of a niche one, but I am a huge pen and ink fan and can listen to this podcast about fountain pens all day. You wouldn't think it would be possible to talk about pens and ink (and sometimes notebooks) for regular hour-long episodes, but these guys manage it. It's a rambling chat between friends that's strangely soothing and has helped me pass many a long car-ride round the M25.

4. On the Page

This is a screenwriting podcast, but, like Out on the Wire, it has applications to all forms of storytelling. Host Pilar Alessandra is an incredibly knowledgeable screenwriting tutor who occasionally visits the UK to run workshops, but here you can benefit from her expertise for free. I particularly like her log line competitions where listeners have to pique our interest in their stories in just a couple of sentences. A good discipline for all writers!


5. Everything Under the Sun

And finally, after all that craft and hard-hitting journalism, a bit of fun especially for children's authors. Everything Under the Sun is the creation of Molly Oldfield, author and writer for QI, and addresses the most pressing questions troubling the nation's small children. From 'which animal makes the best daddy?' to more serious questions like 'why do some people not have houses and live on the street?', Molly answers her young listener's questions with wit and clarity. Coming in at around ten minutes, this podcast is perfect for a quick listen and always helps me to get onto a child's wavelength.

I love podcasts in the car, walking to the shops or over lunch. There's a whole universe of shows out there to discover. What are your favourites?

Alex English is a graduate of Bath Spa University's MA Writing for Young People. Her picture books Yuck said the Yak, Pirates Don't Drive Diggers and Mine Mine Mine said the Porcupine are published by Maverick Arts Publishing. More picture books and her first middle-grade novel are forthcoming in 2020/2021/2022.
www.alexenglish.co.uk


Sunday, 20 May 2018

Podcasts by Writers - Joan Lennon

Back in January, Dan Metcalf gave us his Top 6 Podcasts for Us Writery Types, with links to recorded interviews with writers, artists and scriptwriters.  If you liked those, how about some from the Royal Literary Fund website?  Vox is a collection of short (3-4 minutes) podcasts by writers of all sorts (children's, YA, poets, playwrights, adult novels) on topics such as How I Write, Life-Changing Literature, Writers Who Inspire Me, Why I Write, and others.  Bite-size bits of enlightenment, inspiration and entertainment.  AND you'll come across some familiar names from An Awfully Big Blog Adventure on the site.  Happy listening! 





(If you're up for a longer podcastly commitment, why not try Writers Aloud?  There are other delights as well in the essay section Collected, and the short films found in In Focus.



Visit Joan Lennon's RLF page 
to listen to short podcasts on 
Writers Who Inspire Me
Letter to My Younger Self
and Why I Write