tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7780182174577095197.post2569209321949245848..comments2024-03-25T09:56:16.164+00:00Comments on An Awfully Big Blog Adventure: It's Not Fair - Joan LennonUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7780182174577095197.post-24623342656922752462016-09-21T19:41:42.936+01:002016-09-21T19:41:42.936+01:00Great post Joan, English is also a rich and varied...Great post Joan, English is also a rich and varied language with so many possibilities and delights but so much easier if it is your first language. Great pictures! Linda Strachanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04354324158228109351noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7780182174577095197.post-7285111573220628522016-09-20T16:44:14.725+01:002016-09-20T16:44:14.725+01:00It seems to me that these 'rules' are real...It seems to me that these 'rules' are really only observations after the fact. No-one consciously puts adjectives in that order, it just happened that someone noticed that this is broadly the pattern used. I agree that this information must be burned in the heart of a star to prevent it ever falling into political hands.<br /><br />Language is like music - best learned by listening and repeating, with only nudges of technique along the way. I learned some superb French as a small child when we had an au pair... I had no idea what an Oh Pear was, but I pronounced it far better than I did at GCSE.Nick Greenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08191176209084540085noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7780182174577095197.post-50335371727967369152016-09-20T12:21:59.508+01:002016-09-20T12:21:59.508+01:00Love the first picture especially!Love the first picture especially!Sue Purkisshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09084528571944803477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7780182174577095197.post-76421579834923517842016-09-20T12:15:54.844+01:002016-09-20T12:15:54.844+01:00I didn't really mean that the order shouldn...I didn't really mean that the order shouldn't be taught or explained as a feature, especially to second or third language learners. My reaction was to the thought that this "order" might be made into yet another test for KS2 or even KS1 children. <br /><br />I'm thinking about seeing a piece of marked writing in ten-year-old's English book, which had nouns highlighted in blue, adjectival phrases in yellow and another feature in a third colour. and with comments like "good nouns" and "try to add more adjectives" etc. The child's not very keen on writing - and I'm not surprised.) <br /><br />Will stop now and go back to look at those pictures of Indonesia - a far better way to fill the mind and minutes. Looking forward to hearing more about your visit soon, Joan.<br /><br />Penny Dolanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16386668303428008498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7780182174577095197.post-42459850218211861252016-09-20T11:04:55.363+01:002016-09-20T11:04:55.363+01:00An iron English old bridge.
I came across this wh...An iron English old bridge.<br /><br />I came across this when I was an RLF and saw a lot of Chinese and Korean students - or, put it another way, I remained ignorant of it well into my 50s and had quite a bit of fun trying to break it.<br /><br />But surely it's taught as a rule to those studying English as a foreign language, just as we're taught that, most of the time, the adjective follows the noun in French.<br /><br />Are native speakers of other language often surprised by the rules of their own languages?<br /><br />Great blog, Joan. So glad that Indonesia was overwhelming - because I'm looking forward to the poems that are going to grow out of it.Susan Pricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07738737493756183909noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7780182174577095197.post-45729427738192893002016-09-20T10:29:48.305+01:002016-09-20T10:29:48.305+01:00I've never heard of the order either - but hav...I've never heard of the order either - but have copied it down for future reference, just in case I ever need it! Thanks for a fascinating blog, Joan, though to echo Penny's misgivings, let's hope it never creeps into the curriculum!Lynne Bentonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14412874594191347503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7780182174577095197.post-26696411401756579612016-09-20T09:55:48.956+01:002016-09-20T09:55:48.956+01:00The correct ordering of adjectives really is a str...The correct ordering of adjectives really is a strange thing, isn't it? How did it evolve? But it just <i>sounds </i>right! Is it even learnable without a lifetime's embedding?Candy Gourlayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07802791643303335762noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7780182174577095197.post-10355774650014602572016-09-20T09:37:51.970+01:002016-09-20T09:37:51.970+01:00How much I agree about the English lack of languag...How much I agree about the English lack of language skills, mine included. <br /><br />I do like this post - and also that article! I didn't "know" that order existed until recently. For me, it's an almost unconscious ordering, and has been hard to explain to children in schools so I have tended to mull, aloud, over the order and ask "which way sounds better?" and ask the class to vote on which sounds best.<br /><br />I'm wondering if we had better keep quiet about that article otherwise six-year-olds across the land will end up being tested rigorously on the right order of their words, before they can barely say or write them. Oh! The heart sinks, thinking there are probably KS2 grammar exercises on this topic around at this very moment.<br /><br />Big Bad Wolf? Hmm. I wonder if that's the physical pattern of those words in the mouth, i.e. a small opening for BIG, followed by a larger gape for BAD and closing again for WOLF? (Or BIG suggesting the visual approaching of danger or power and BAD being a closer confirmation of that first impression. As played with in BIG (Aaaagh!)FRIENDLY(Phew!)GIANT (Curiosity? What's going on here with this archetype?)<br />Oh, Big Bad Bother! Feel I could witter on for ages on this. Must go! <br /><br />Penny Dolanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16386668303428008498noreply@blogger.com