tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7780182174577095197.post4685442919429125660..comments2024-03-25T09:56:16.164+00:00Comments on An Awfully Big Blog Adventure: Writing Groups and Criticism - Heather DyerUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7780182174577095197.post-36275050665587670502014-04-04T09:26:18.793+01:002014-04-04T09:26:18.793+01:00Thanks for the comments - good points all. I agree...Thanks for the comments - good points all. I agree that it really does depend on what a person wants, and is ready for. In fact, in my teaching for beginners I only give positive comments for quite a while, since the hardest thing to do is free yourself up to be creative, initially, and we need encouragement to do that. Then, who knows where our writing will go. Heather Dyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16663116147353986746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7780182174577095197.post-84732766861533218372014-04-04T06:26:52.897+01:002014-04-04T06:26:52.897+01:00The writing course I run in Cambridge each summer ...The writing course I run in Cambridge each summer doesn't include any peer criticism. The feedback is one-to-one and in the style an agent/editor would give because we reckon that's what a professional writer will be working with - professonal opinions and feedback. That means it's a slightly different situation, but I'd say just thanking someone and nothing more is throwing away a chance to explore what is not working. The point is not to defend, but if you explain what you are trying to do the person who has made the criticism might be able to say why that didn't come across to them, and then you have some clue about how to fix it. But I guess that will only work in some types of writing group. There is quite a difference between those who hope to be published and those who are writing purely for their own enjoyment.Stroppy Authorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16560035800075465845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7780182174577095197.post-27986098608413774812014-04-03T13:09:37.299+01:002014-04-03T13:09:37.299+01:00It helps if you respect the opinion of the person ...It helps if you respect the opinion of the person who is your critic and this ties in very much with what Nick had to say. Some really casual blogger who perhaps thought she was on to a good social media presence, is not someone you want to be bothered with. Don't get me wrong, there are some fine bloggers out there. <br /><br />But someone who might not even be a fellow writer, but knows the bones of a good story might be just the person to trust. (which I suppose is redundant here because you are talking writers groups) Dianne Hofmeyrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18222157214605257030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7780182174577095197.post-35366729134748574102014-04-03T10:41:18.215+01:002014-04-03T10:41:18.215+01:00All criticism has to be filtered based on who is a...All criticism has to be filtered based on who is actually delivering it. If it's a respected and multiple-published writer, or an agent or a publisher, then you have be either super-confident and brilliant not to listen, or conceited to the point of madness. <br /><br />If it's just a reader, it's often worth listening too of course. But it's also possible that your writing just isn't to their taste. Readers may scathingly criticise Booker prize winners at reading groups. And be even more wary if the critic is a fellow writing group member who is possibly motivated a teensy bit by jealousy. And yet, still listen before you dismiss.Nick Greenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08191176209084540085noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7780182174577095197.post-38161661834563272972014-04-03T09:31:02.300+01:002014-04-03T09:31:02.300+01:00I think, as you say, Heather, that it all depends ...I think, as you say, Heather, that it all depends on the group. Writers who want to be published need to be thick-skinned, but for people who are writing in a different context, overly robust criticism may be exactly the thing they don't need.Sue Purkisshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09084528571944803477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7780182174577095197.post-17695371936203493222014-04-03T09:05:25.756+01:002014-04-03T09:05:25.756+01:00In my writing group we used to run a system of ...In my writing group we used to run a system of 'a tick and a wish' - something we liked about a piece and then something we'd like to change. Now we are all a but more robust we've dropped it, but it was great for people who were new to having their work critiqued.JOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03127111575563904349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7780182174577095197.post-30799960099669429342014-04-03T08:52:47.783+01:002014-04-03T08:52:47.783+01:00Good points there!
I'd also forbid, in the W...Good points there! <br /><br />I'd also forbid, in the Writer's Circle/Group scenario though maybe elsewhere (?), the crit response that begins "Oh that's so good and it reminds me about when I . . ." followed by 10 unstoppable minutes of amusing anecdote that takes all the attention from the original writer and their writing.<br /><br />Penny Dolanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16386668303428008498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7780182174577095197.post-46357659864722400172014-04-03T07:15:47.512+01:002014-04-03T07:15:47.512+01:00I haven't been in a writing group for many yea...I haven't been in a writing group for many years now - just no time, and once we started selling, we had even less time. I remember one member who accused my characters of being two dimensional - I wrote her into my next story as a ghost that shrieked,"You're two dimensional!" as it floated past, much to my heroes' bemusement. Another group member was much more helpful - he got me to join the SCA so I could learn about mediaeval fighting and taught me himself. <br /><br />More recently, though, I've been editing for Andromeda Spaceways, a science fiction magazine, and slush reading as well. We try to make some comment on each story that comes in. We get a lot of responses from appreciation of the feedback to those prima donnas who whine about it on their blogs or their writer lists. Thing is, if you're a writer you need a thick skin! Think about all the rude comments you're going to get AFTER you're published! ;-) A few crits shouldn't hurt too much if they help you.Sue Bursztynskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09362273418897882971noreply@blogger.com